SNOWBOARDING IS THE BEST SPORT IN THE WHOLE WORLD.
CRYSTAL MOUNTAIN RULES.
ok for years skiiers and snowboarders have had an ongoing rivalry. im a snowboarder and at mtn creek in new jersey where i ride, the entire south peak is a terrain park. we have been more or less running it since open last year (07/08) and now the shitty ass skiiers are trying to do all the shit we can do and it pisses us off. if ur not on one board, ur not cool.
I''m trying to find a verbal walk-me-through for the weight balance and dynamics of snowboarding. I''m absolutely determined to learn and get it down. I just bought a sweet board and bindings to insure my commitment and rule out the possibility that rental equipment is my failing factor. The problem is that I''ve been boarding a handful of times and I spent most of that time on my ass and wrists - very uncool. I''d like to know what I''m doing wrong. Are you supposed to lean forward and let your front foot guide the board? I''m having the most trouble on straight-aways. For some reason, one side of the board always catches the snow and I end up with a face full of mountain - also very uncool. Can anyone help me?
For an article published on a snowboarding site, I have to hand it to the author for remaining unbiased.
That said, I''m also surprised that the author thinks skiing could be learned more easily. I think it is way harder to learn to snowboard than it is to learn to ski (I do both, or used to, now I just snowboard). Also, snowboarding is way more fun than skiing once you have learned.
if i had a choice i would go with snowboarding over any winter activity in the world.
I live in colorado and have a season pass to six defferent mountains. Vail is one of em. Mike you are a faggot. I love snowboarding but i also have friends that ski. Skiiers are always going to be were we board. Get over it douche bag. Your probably one of those kids that think they fucking rock because they can throw down a pussy 360. You suck balls, get over it queer.
what r you able to do? cause it doesn''t really mater what people say. its all in the act. just sayin.
SNOWBOARDING IS THE BEST THING IN THE WORLD
you know what i would have to agree with bones 221
though. it is the best thing in the world.
if you want to do some real snowboarding or skiing get out of the terrain park and onto the mountain, all you guys do is sit and watch your friends go off the jumps boxes or rails then you go and say man that was sweet go out and enjoy the snow use the mountain and the lift ticket that you paid for
It seems like most people who have done both sports end up sticking with snowboarding in the end. At least the ones that actually got the hang of it. That''s what I did. I used to ski and snowboard, and at first I liked skiing more. But once I got better and got used to both of them, I realized that snowboarding was just so much more fun. Skiing''s great and all, but snowboarding dominates.
maybe some people actually like to do rails and boxes instead of going down the snow. i personaly like both but some dont. so what others like is fine yu dont have to be there controler just cause their area of experties is different.
i completely agree with this kid cody. and if your talking about the crystal mountain in michigan, your soooo right.
i agree with most of ya, but i just like to cruise and mind my own business. i like to jump and rail and all but i mostly love the way the board makes me feel when im goin down the mountain. i dont care about the rivalary, i think we should just mind our own business. like me
I''m with you Zak on learning snowboarding - much harder than skiing, but SO much more FUN!!! My first time skiing, I was on blue runs, and it took me four or five days before I got on them on a board.
Both riding and skiing are fun. You do what you enjoy. I enjoy ski jumping up in Vermont, flying over 300 feet in the air. Never tried it on a board, and probably never will. I''ve spent many hours skysurfing. I think that''s so cool. Anyone who snowboards shouldn''t have a problem with skysurfing unless you''re yella.
I am going on a "ski trip" (as they call it) soon, and was wondering whether to do snowboarding or skiing? anybody got anytips?
Skiing!, few snowboarders are just loud pussies who think they''re hella sick by doing gay 360s and most are fine. I want to try snowboarding and I never have. But I''m not going to go around and yell at 5 year old skiers cause they are in the terrain park. Why don''t wake up and take some anger managment classes. Mike
I just went on a "ski" trip for the first time ever early in january this year. i unfortunately only went for a day and a half and even though i wanted to try snowboarding from the get go, i let the others on the trip (all skiers) to convince me to try skiing on the first day, and then if i don''t like it to try snowboarding on the second. all i can say is, i wish i hadn''t listened to everybody and just gone snowboarding from day 1!!! i think that snowboarding is easier to learn by far. i was better after an hour on a snowboard than i had been after a whole day of skiing (and i took lessons for both btw). i''m already planning another snowboarding trip in 2 weeks- i''m so hooked! and when the season is over and the deals are great, i''ll be buying my very own snowboard so i can enjoy it all next snow season!
ryan- if you''re going for multiple days, why not try both! but try snowboarding first and then just see if you''re willing to give it up ;-) i know i was hooked once i tried it. either way, just be prepared to eat snow... and remember that snowboarders, when they do bust, tend to bust bigger (but no matter what, it''s still funner in my opinion!!!)
"If ur not on a snowboard ur not cool". Sounds like something somebody from New Jersey would say. The fact is a skier with actual skill can do anything a snowboarder can do in the park. About 25% of the skiers that ride Squaw Valley, my home mountain, are pros. About 10% of snowboarders are pros. There is mutual respect there, b/c if you''re bad ass, you''re badass. So shut the f up and stay in New Jersey. I''m sick of this 1990''s debate.
If you''re starting out with a blank slate, try both. I''ve seen too many people try desperately to learn snowboarding. Then after a few horrible days they try skiing and find how much more intuitive it is for them. Not as much vice versa, since popular culture and peer pressure nowadays leans a little more to snowboarding as "cool".
i grew up skiing and will always remain fond of it. i switched to snowboarding when i was 18 and i haven''t looked back. i remember i was terrified when i first started snowboarding and that challenge and thrill is what kept/keeps me doing it. i know some people who love skiing and i know people who love snowboarding, but anyone who hates on the other group for being "ghey" or "lame" is just plain ignorant. i''ve seen snowboarding grow and it''s been fun, but everywhere i go now i see way more snowboarders sitting around doing nothing while blocking traffic. i don''t think skiers can even sit around and do that comfortably.
It sucks, but i''ve met a-hole skiers and a-hole snowboarders. Unfortunately the mountains aren''t a douche-free zone. i just wish everyone could ride happily. Enjoy the snow while it lasts.
i am so with snowboarding. snowboarding is better. skiing is for wimps that need all the equipment for them to get around. and i disagree with skiing being easier to learn. on my second time snowboarding i went down blue runs without falling. 3rd time snowboarding i did my first grind. 4th time my first jump. heck i even landed a 10 ft jump. and seriously im only 9 yrs old. skiers are also SO SO SO annoying. they''re like "i''m going to go down the terrain park and block all of the jumps and rails" or "lets go down this run while going back and forth blocking all the snowboarders going down". i mean some skiers are cool, like bobby brown, but ALL snowboarders are cool. i would say skiing is for wimps that want to take it easy (except if your a skier that actually does tricks) and snowboarding is for cool kids that love shredding and watching giant waves of powder flying up behind them.
Wow ''Ian''.. You sure do have good spelling and grammar considering you''re "only 9 yrs old"...
hi,i got my first downhill skies when i was 5 years old,i have not been skiing for over 20 years.now im 40 years old and i have started with snowboarding,this is my first season.im totaly crazy about snowboarding,i will not go back to downhillskies.
I''ve been sking/snowboarding for the past 21 years. I started skiing when I was 6 and then switched to snowboarding when I was about 16. I''ve been boarding for the last 10 years and went out and bought a new set of skis just so I could do both. Both skiing and snowboarding have their own advantages.
1) snowboarding on moguls is terrible, this is the number 1 reason I went out and bought skis.
2) I live out east, out skiing/snowboarding hills here aren''t the greatest. We have to deal with ice patches and tons of man made snow. With that being said I enjoy snowboarding on powder, but skiing is such a better experience in the east cost conditions.
3) Skiing is soo much better in those off terrain places like glade runs. Its not that you can''t do it on a snowboard, to me its just not as enjoyable because you can''t turn as quick.
Anyways I just thought i''d add some 2 cents, I ski and snowboard at an advance level. I love both for their own reasons. Maybe now that i''m 27 and starting to get out of the park I''m really appreciating skiing more.
Anyone who says ''Skiers suck, snowboarding is way better'' have obviously never seen freestyle skiing. Skiers consistently go bigger over jumps and pull some ridiculous tricks (0 spin backwards airs... crazy). I''ve been snowboarding since I was 8 and could never ditch snowboarding for skiing but this stupid skier vs. snowboarder thing has got to stop. If you push the limits with either sport you deserve tons of credit.
snowboarding is my choice, but yu have to respect the awsome freestyle and ski racers :)
I''ve tried both sports, but I preferred skiing as it was more thrilling (to me anyways) as it''s easier to go off-piste.
I like to snowboard too, but skiing will always be number one for me.
what is this rivalary thing betwen snowboarders and skiers,you guys have some serious problems,go to the slopes and have fun,i live in norway and there is no rivalary here,we are just having a good time,grow up!!!!
Just writing a paper on contested spaces of mountain resorts and caught this link. What I don''t get is boards were created by a skier thanks Sherman. Secondly as a boarder whenever I am in a whiteout some place I don''t know well I follow the tails of the skiers because they get down quicker. Thirdly when skiers push spring slush to the piste edge and youre surfing the soft thank em and fourthly when your''e busted up and your shoulders hanging out or your''e legs bent the wrong way who cares if its a skier or a boarder who gets to you first. Rivalry is inexperience, and ignorance for when the young french skiers are lining up a jumps in places you never considered showing you the way thank em
I have never snowboarded and am pretty sure I would fail at it. I love to ski though. I hate the rivalry. Its all for fun! Both are really cool to watch!
i used to be a skier, i got hurt ALL THE TIME!!!! when went on thin rails one time i landed on my kroch it hurt alot so 2008 i decided to try snowboarding i fell on my tailbone lots of times during my first runs but now in 2010 i can do a backside 540 GO SNOWBOARDING BRISTOL MOUNTIAN FOREVER!!!!!!!!
I started skiing in 2008 as a beginner skier, then it went into January 2009, and then i finished, and started up again 2009''s December, and now it''s into April 2010, and i went skiing today, then halfway through the day, me, my sister, and her friend decided that she would teach us snowboarding, so we all rented a snowboard each, and went on the bunny hill. I thought it would be very tricky, and as we were going up my sister''s friend was telling me how to control. I got to the top, put my other foot in the board and tightened it up, i stood up to wait for my sister and her friend to put on their snowboards, i started moving down the hill, i freaked out and fell over, then realized that that won''t help, so got up and went the rest of the way. IT WAS THE FUNNEST THING I''VE DONE IN A LONG TIME! I did enjoy skiing, but snowboarding so much more, i did fall on my butt alot, but because of the snowpants it didn''t hurt at all, just make sure you have waterproof gloves, mine were wet afterwards. I didn''t fall over as much with skiing though.
I was an average skier who never mastered off piste after a couple of seasons, and also got hurt all the time. My wife was a good skier who never looked back after 1 day on a board. She taught me to board on the easy stuff in one day and I was off piste within 3-4 days. Snowboarding is sooooo much easier and much less painful... for me and my Wife anyway!
I''ve been snowboarding for 6 years, and before that I skied.
I hold no animosity for skiers, and they are welcome in the park. In fact, I am very impressed by a lot of skiers in the park. The only problem for me is all of the little kids in the park who can''t ski or ride any of the features, and are simply getting in the way. Unfortunately, most of these kids ski, mainly because their parents do.
skiing all the way
wow. are all snowboarders so homophobic? all the "gay" and "queer" slurs are unbelievable.
Well, I''ve been skiing for several years and I also used to snowboard, I''ve done both and I have no prejudice about neither of those great winter sports.
There are SEVERAL diferences between them. Snowboard was borned because in the past the skis used to be VERY long and you couldn''t do freestyle with them (jumps, rails, etc). Nowdays, skis are shorter and freestyle is easy with skis, so that''s not a problem any more. However, snowboard is still gaining popularity because many people like the "surf" feeling of it.
If I have to be honest, I think snowboard is extremely dull. But that''s for me! Many will think very differently. I love speed, and skis are faster. I also love tree runs and I think skis are nicer in tree runs. Snowboard looks cooler in freestyle and it''s easier, specially rails are easier. However, since I don''t like freestyle (I love jumps, 360, etc, but not rails or half pipe) that''s not important for me.
Overall, I think if you''re going to do a lot of freestyle, snowboard is your best choice. If you like to go fast downhill and hit some jumps, ski is your best choice.
There''s also a very important difference learning any of those sports. Skiing is easy to learn the basic, but it''s harder to master. Snowboarding is harder to learn the basics (basically, carving) but it''s easier to master. Maybe in one day you can ski downhill a blue run, but it will take you years to master the sport since you need to learn MANY different techniques for every single type of run (muggles, groomed, etc). You''ll need like a week to be able to carve properly, but in a few months you''ll be a pro.
I''ve done both and they''re both fun to me. It''s more the younger people that are into the whole skiers vs snowboard thing. You can enjoy both.
I''m mainly a skier. my family goes out west skiing every year and its always awesome! my friends tried to get me into snowboarding last year and i gave it a try. i went in with an open mind but i ended up liking skiing more still. I just think its funner to hit mogul runs and tree runs and double blacks and even jumps then to hit only the terrain park. dont get me wrong, snowboarding was awesome, but skiing to me was a little better. I respect most snowboarders, but people like Ian piss me off. In case you didnt read his comment he called skiers wimps bc we use poles and bc we use the terrain park too basically. Im not sure if hes aware but skiers are proven to go faster and higher. I just hate how they think they own the place. I know this was a long comment but i thought id add my opinion. i just wish we could get along
skis are faster than snow boarders hands down!!
To me the Skiing vs Snowboarding thing is actually good for some people to decide what they want to do but look at it..... all the kidds are writing stuff like "SNOWBOARDING IS THE BEST" or "skiing is gay" or etc.
I have been skiing for 10 years now (turning 15 in 1 month) and I dearly love it with all my heart. I am also a skateboarder. Here''s what i think: when i see snow i imagine myself going down the mountain with a lot of speed rather than staying in the terrain park doing rails and stuff. From what I''ve heared from my friends I realised that they do snowboarding because it is "cooler" to perform tricks rather than enjoy speed. Now here is why I skateboard. I like the many flip tricks skateboarding can offer and all the other grinds that are also available in snowboarding but i perfer doing that at the skatepark instead of laining at the terrainpark wasting time, concidering that in my country there is snow for ~3 months. And what really pissed me of was the guy at the skateshop when i was buyng a new skate deck. "So for how long have you been skateboarding?" "Well i actually ski." "Jeez... you are one of those..... nevermind."
For the sake of all fun, stop fighting you morons!
skiing is better
Yodog is right on. I''m an expert skiier who''s done some mogul comps, cliff jumps, heliski. If I was into freestyle or wanted some long powder runs then snowboard all the way. For icy mountains, trees, moguls, quick turn chutes, and lifts you have to traverse to then skis. Seen a bunch of skiiers and boarders that talk but can''t back it up. Just have fun and enjoy.
anybody who is truly badass will have respect for anybody else who is truly badass, skis or a ride.
i like boarding on lift serviced runs, but if i was gonna go backcountry id definitely choose skis
MOUNTAIN CREEK FTW
snowboarding became an olympic sport in 1998 not 1988
I have no personal argument here on your weapon of choice in your pursuit of snowsports, providing you just stay out of my way on the mountain. We are more of the same mind here that we are different. That being said, here at Snowbird Utah where I hold a season pass and have for many consecutive years, I have really noticed a big drop off in the percentage of snowboarders the past couple of years in the Tram line, where it is a simple matter to size up such ski vs board demographcs at the resort. To me it seems that skiers now are accounting for at least 85 if not 95% of the herd, whereas, 4 or 5 years ago it seems there were many more boarders, say as much as 30 or 40%. I find it so noticeable a change that it made me stop to think of why. Ski technology has changed for sure, and its now every bit as cool or more so to ride 2 planks. The young teenagers are more and more to be found on skis, and they are every bit as hip a crowd as boarders once were. I can thank snowboarding for making skiers really up their game in every way. Its been good for the sport. Last Friday in the parking lot getting ready to go out, and the obligatory cool teen snowsport car Subaru WRX comes rolling in heavy base thumping a rap tune. Hipster boys in baggy colorful clothes bail out of the car, but they proceed to put on ski boots. I like to give my Snowboarding buddy crap for fun and asked him if Snowboarding was becoming irrelevant. Of course its not. But the trends I am seeing are intesting to be sure. Like I say, I love all my snowsport brothers, so long as you stay outside of my fall line.
To my mind, skis beat snowboards in every area. They are far more versatile, they are much faster, skiers can jump bigger and higher... twice as many edges means twice as much control for tight turns in moguls, glades, etc. If you''re on a snowboard and you reach a long flat area, you run out of speed and are stuck, whereas skiers can skate across these zones. Skiing is much more difficult to master so it will present a challenge for longer, and increasingly, skiing is cooler. The tricks and grabs that the best skiers are doing in the park far exceed in difficulty and impressiveness what the snowboarders are doing. I agree with the guy who said snowboarding has caused skiers to up their game, and I also agree the trend is now back towards skiing.
Okay for starters I snowboard, and I''m pretty much convinced the people running down skiers are all gapers that want to jump on the bandwagon. Who cares about what you ride as long as your doing it because you want to. Hitting the mountain is about personal freedom and progression. It''s not about what''s "cool" or popular, none of that matters one bit when you''re getting first tracks in pow, nothing else exists at that time and place, just the here and now. It''s not a race and it''s not a competition, I think the majority of people who read this will never go off to do either on a large scale. Leave your troubles, worries, and your ego''s at the car because eventually the mountain will put you in your place. Ride whatever makes you happy and don''t let anyone tell you otherwise.
Different sports have different qualities. For instance, Erik Roner is a badass, and he''s a skier. Todd Richards is a kickass boarder. There ultimately is no better sport, just riders.
For those of you who think Skiiers cannot hit huge tricks, you are soo wrong!. IF you don’t believe me look up TJ Schiller hitting a 1620 double cork. Thats four and a half rotations. I have never seen a boarder get even close to that. Skiing is way better. There are so many types. Alpine, Cross Country, and telemarking. Snowboarding may be harder to learn but it is easier to master. Skiing offers more rewards. You can go faster and jump higher. Look uup Simon Dumont. How would you like it when you’re shredding and have to slow down bc boarders are sitting down? …nuff said! ANything a boarder can do a skier can do. And we have mobility with both legs in the air. Skiing wins hands down.
I snowboard and ski, and I know for a fact skiing is easier to learn. In simple terms, Skiing is easier to be good, but harder to be great. Snoboarding is harder to be good, but easier to be great. Snowboarding is harder on the ankles when you aren''t strapped in, and ski''s pop off if twisted too far (unless you''re using ancient ski''s. Good luck.) Snowboarding is more bent towards tricks, but both ski''s and boards are equal in all.
SNOBOARDING IS JUST better!
you cant sack yoourself on a snowboard but you can easily sack ur self on skiies
ya''ll confused. skiboarding is where it''s at.
I have only skied and have thought about switching for one reason. KNEES! I have had 4 reconstructive knee surgeries from my football days...lately when i ski i have to wait 5 days for the swelling to go down to bend it 90 degrees let alone the constant pain (i''m in my early forties).
I just want to go down the bloody mtn and speed is not as important as it once was, I have no interest in the terrain park hanging with the kiddies.
Anyone here who may have switched for the same reason? Of course, learning may give me new aches & pains.:)
I did skiing and learned it in soo quick it wasn''t fun anymore snowboarding is much more rewarding and fun
I am a Skier and I was thinking of switching to Snowboarding when I saw Wild Stalions by Meathead Films and it just showed me how lame snowboarding is. On Skis you can ride the whole mountian on a snowboard you can''t do bumps,ice, or glades. I was with my friend who is a snowboarder and was all like "oh I can''t go their I''m on a snowboard" and on the chair lift is a pain and snowboarding tricks are the same thing as they were twenty years ago. Skiing has so many more tricks and options all over the mointain. It also depends which kind of Ski your using. I find lots of people on crappy Rossignals that are a few sizes to small. Look up Line Skis those are the best.
u all r takin dis way to personal
Hey Russ, if no one answered your question yet, I had that same problem starting out, I learn that if I keep my weight right over that board and lean back a little when i feel it catching, it helps to not catch. But, another reason that could be happening is that your not facing forward, if you want the board to stop facing the mountain you have to concentrate on letting the board glide down that mountain with out interference, let loose and just go, don''t think to much about it other wise it will keep happening. Try keeping your weigh right over the board, bend your knees and remember the basics. And to all those stupid skiers that think they can get in the way of us snowboarders, Get out the way fools... Will run yea down. Snowboarders 4 life bros.
Yeah i''m gonna have to go with the general consensus here and say that snowboarding is definitely the way to go. I have skied for 8 years and just tried snowboarding last year. In my total experience snowboarding has dwarfed even the best times I had skiing. And DJ, have you ever watched the winter x-games/olympics? snowboarding has definitely stepped up it''s game over the years...double mctwist sound familiar? And though I have enjoyed skiing over the years, I always find myself watching snowboarding events over skiing, it just isn''t the same. If you don''t think so lookup the most viewed events in the winter xgames and Olympics, I don''t see ski events topping the list...
Snow boarders are up them selves and they are very aggresive. I comp freestyle ski and when i do a trick it looks cooler than when snowboarders do tricks.
ummmmm ....comeon guz skiing dominates!..have you seen the tricks skiiers do compare to boadres!....go watch videos of jossi wells then try say boarding beter....beacause its not.they are annoying and have no respect when i was like 5 a snowboader came down the run with no controll whatsoever and hit me , i flew in the air di a flip and landed on my head nearly breaking my neck, and no it was no my fault i was on the side of the run out of the way and visiable to other people, also have yo seen how fast the racers go. i do both freestly and racing and its sooo much funner than boarding and yes i have tried boardin it sucked i ended breaking my tailbone, and btw im not bad at boarding i just caught a edge ........
k.. im 16 and been skiing for 13 years. Skiing is hands down better than snowboarding. With skiing you can do any run on the mountain. Snowboarding u cant do Back Country or keep control on ice. Also in the park, when a ski throws down a even a tiny 360 grab, looks loads times better than a snowboarder doing a grab 3. So yeah Skiing is better
I got a question for every one here I''m going to go on a snow trip for the first time and I get the option of hireing ether a snow board or skiis wich on would you get the most serios accident that could scar u for life such as broken ankles and also wich is esier to stop on as well as control ?
I know I''m coming into this way late, but I just stumbled across this site. The lame-ass reasoning that Boarders can''t keep control in icy conditions is just wrong. I live in the Northwest and actually learned how to board by taking advantage of some cheap night lessons. I didn''t realize that the reason that it was so much cheaper to go at night was the conditions. The instructors told me it would be a lot harder to learn in those conditions because it was essentially ice instead of snow, but they said it could be done and that I would have better control because of it.
So, I learned to snowboard in icy conditions and it can be done. I just think skiers are looking for any excuse to bash boarding. Honestly, it doesn''t matter me what you choose, but stop the trash talk.
What did the skier say to the snow boarder? She said " you can''t catch me, I''m faster than you!"
as stated in the article above "If one is looking for nothing else but speed, it would be surprising to learn that given a rider and a skier, both of the equal ability and expertise on their sports — in terms of velocity, Skiing beats Snowboarding. Comparing speed records and statistics, skiers will be faster than riders."