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straightlineing or should i be on an edge, i always seem to lose it right at the top and end up on my back or my face after leaving the lip of the jump.
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joey1254
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Points 18
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It depends. if you want to spins bs or fs, youll want to be leaning toward the way your spinning. If your not spinning id say just go straight up.
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kk sounds good ill give it a shot.
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The approach to a jump is key to a successful landing. Do any and all speed checks well in advance of the take off ramp and as you line yourself up for doing a straight air, remain flat based. Flex your knees as you approach the ramp and as soon as your board starts up the ramp, gradually extend to maintain your speed. As you reach the lip, you should rapidly extend the rest of the way to pop off the lip. Once airboard, flex again to bring the board up toward your upper body.
Remember to keep your shoulder lined up over your board and your weight centered so you go off nice and straight. Avoid the temptation to face forward while airborne as this will cause you to land on your heel edge with the board across the slope.
For a spin, you should very slightly carve up the ramp on the opposite edge you want to spin off of. Slightly prewind by rotating your shoulders the opposite direction of the spin. Just before goin off the lip, make a brisk edge change to the edge you will pop off of and extend your legs to op. At the instant you pop, unwind and turn your head to look in the direction you are spinning. The combination of the edge change with the upper body rotation will really get some spin energy going.
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Hey thanks alot snow, that was really imformative. appreciate it!
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Snow Wolf has it. I used to have huge problems with this until I went out on a very fluffy / snowy day (WI.. doesn't happen too often..) With the powder I couldn't cut much otherwise I'd slow down and not make the jump! Anyways, enough of that. If you're not doing any rotation just think of it like this: You'll land the jump the same way you leave it. Obviously you want to land flat so you ant to leave flat. If you still have problems landing you're leaving on an edge, and that's probably because you left on an edge ever so slightly. That’s
due to cutting before you get to the jump/bump. If it’s a real big problem just
stop completely before the jump just far enough up the hill to get over
it. Then ride flat from there until you
go over the jump and gradually work your way up the hill, building your speed.
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To add another question to this.
I always approach the jump knees bent and flat based, but as im coming to land i just get all messed up everywhere and end up falling, i land it occasionally but only when i do an indy or such? I dont know if its just me being nervous or what....
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If your approach is good then you're just jumping too high I'd think. Start with Ollies, if those are easy then move to bumps and lips, if those are easy then do the jumps. Start at a spot up on the hill above the jump that gets you just over the jump w/o jumping, this helps you gauge the speed you need for this jump. Then move up the hill to make your jump bigger / faster.
Also the landing zone has alot to do with it. Make sure it's either even, either flat with no or little vertical or an even vertical down the hill. I've hit a few jumps that either are flat but then drop, requiring an ollie immediately after the jump if you don't' go big enough (not good for beginners, or me for that matter :P) or jumps where the landing zone has a divit in it for whatever reason, that's even worse.
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Wow! Amazing Results!!!
I went up to mount high on wednesday.
and after a few falls, my jumps were great! best ive ever done. Sadly my friend used her brothers pass, and we got booted from the slopes, haha so i didnt get to board as long as i wanted. but a great improvement i cant wait to head back up and keep working on it.
thanks guys for your imput/advice!
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hoduka
Bunny Hill Material
Posts 7
Points 7
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I cant write snow wolf have explaines everything thx man:)
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Esahc007
Bunny Hill Material
Posts 8
Points 8
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Good tips they do help... im going on a Mammoth trip pritty soon and i will try to perfect my jumps... im kinda stuck at 180's right now... but hopefully ill get a 360 this trip
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 | NinjaInWhite posted the following on Tuesday 26th February 2008
To add another question to this.
I always approach the jump knees bent and flat based, but as im coming to land i just get all messed up everywhere and end up falling, i land it occasionally but only when i do an indy or such? I dont know if its just me being nervous or what....
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Part of completing a jump successfully is committing to your trick/manuever. Indecision in the air can be a killer. It leads to Flailing which leads to being off balance. In the snowboard teaching world we have an acronym ATML. APROACH, TAKEOFF, MANUEVER, LANDING.
Approach - ask your self this question how much speed, condition of snow, does manuever require a carved approach or flatboard?
Takeoff - how will you pop? off heels, flat, or toes? how steep is the ramp, how far to the landing. what will the manuever require?
Manuever - decide on a trick and stick to it. if all hell breaks loose remember to extend before your landing to help absorb the pressure of landing
Landing - remember to extend just before landing and look out to where you will be riding too.
Also take a lesson from a certified instructor or one that speciallizes in freestyle from the mountains local snowsports shool. Another set of eyes and knowledge behind freestyle and instruction always helps.
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Ctrides
Super Member
Posts 48
Points 49
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All right guys lets clear up a couple of things... First... All this talk of being flat based??? You have to approach a jump slightly on edge, not so much that you are turning across the hill but at least enough to leave a light pencil line track in the snow. Flat based take offs are just not going to set you up well for anything even a straight air. Remember that you are just trying to create a little edge dominance not rail out your board. Second... You can't fix a darn thing once you have left the ground. Everything you do in your approach and take-off will directly effect your air time and landing. That is to say that if you don't make the right moves in your approach and then again at the lip when you pop and set your spin or whatever it is you want to do, then you will not be able to save your self in the air. for example you have to set the rotation for a 360 while you are on your way up the ramp not after you are in the air. Make sure that you have carefully thought through how much speed you need to land on the top half of the landing zone, what your approach track will look like and where you will start from, how hard you plan to pop, and always prepare yourself for the compression that the take-off ramp will create. That whole ATML thing is pretty cool but you have to remember that the A and the T are far more critical to success than the M and the L...
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I ride with a low edge angle on the approach to the takeoff ramp after making any last minute minor directional adjustments then I launch off the lip completely flat based for a straight air. Using very slight shoulder pivot to correct any drift, I always go off very straight and very stable. The only time I pop off the lip with any edge angle is to do a spin. I find that riding flat based takes a little practice and that when flat based, shoulder rotation is very critical and that once you have mastered that, going off a lip flat makes for a much straighter trajectory. Whenever I go off with any edge angle, I tend to drift off centerline in the direction of the edge I was on at takeoff.
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Ctrides
Super Member
Posts 48
Points 49
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Snowwolf seriously bro you and I need to shred together and talk. I will be at the meadows exam and if youre around you should look me up. You have some good ideas and it is clear that you are going through the learning curve that you are sharing with others. Keep up the good work man.
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